So Cal, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. This feels particularly surreal for me because I've been following your stuff for just, I feel like I was reading your blog way back in like 2010 or 2011 when you were posting about how to figure out what to do with your career. And now I'm this productivity YouTuber, which feels like a strange place to be because it's never where I set out to be. But that's great. SoCal: There's there's an interesting congruence between us, right? Because think about we both were trained and trained to do something very specific, but also thinking about all these other issues that orbited my job

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