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Do You Think That They Believe the Shit?
"It seems to me that something like that is fundamentally flawed, because what they do is, they get right into the weeds," he says. "They focus on very particular little claims and one can cherry pick and construct a grand narrative from a bunch of little details." He adds: 'There is no way you can listen to them for any significant period of time and think that they're not... it's a kind of double speak'