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603 - Mad Joseph McDowell

The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds

CHAPTER

Exploring the Life of Joseph McDowell and the Surgical Feats of Uncle Ephraim

This chapter delves into the early life of Joseph McDowell, his family's background, and his uncle Ephraim's groundbreaking surgical techniques. It also touches on the controversial use of corpses for dissection and body snatching during the 1830s.

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Speaker 1
me well I feel like around the corner is gonna be an a no I'm
Speaker 2
not
Speaker 1
gonna fall for it when he the poo was born I'm gonna find the
Speaker 2
honey Joseph Nash McDowell was born in Lexington Kentucky okay the Kentucky is they call it is that right yep his family was respected and had been part of the founding of the country his father fought with Washington and Sir George Washington yep the same the George he served in Kentucky's first state legislature but Joseph did not follow in the family military tradition
Speaker 1
okay
Speaker 2
as a boy Joseph was fascinated with his uncle Ephraim
Speaker 1
sure he's where did we record this original this was recorded in Lexington Kentucky did we do what I
Speaker 2
don't know I think we didn't want to Louisville didn't we
Speaker 1
yeah yeah we did one in Louisville okay but it was deadly Kentucky okay I don't think there's any other cities there yeah
Speaker 2
there aren't no so Ephraim's a doctor and he made history in 1806 when he took a huge tumor out of a woman whoa good for him he did the operation on a dining table in the guest room of his house with no anesthesia or antibiotics or painkillers whoa so a natural tumor whoa what they call that
Speaker 1
that's a natural I love it tumor boy that must have really hurt god like good long term but man get me shitface oh my god on the table yeah we were gonna have macaroni Josh this is
Speaker 2
perfect yeah you gotta clean it up and eat there the next day it's gotta be kind of weird I
Speaker 1
don't know boy that would be nuts and do
Speaker 2
you eat the tumor
Speaker 1
I don't want to talk to you on the rest of this episode I tell you what
Speaker 2
I put some tumor recipes up on the website go ahead and check them out but they're all kinds I'll
Speaker 1
tell you what's in this to Merrick
Speaker 2
so the tumor was too big to take out I can't believe
Speaker 1
we're following the tumor
Speaker 2
okay yeah we're going with the tumor the tumor was too big to take out through the incision so he drove that
Speaker 1
it's not a good incision by the way no no it's fine he drained the tumor oh until it was small enough to remove let me just I'm gonna take some of the tumor water out of this just under
Speaker 2
22 pounds
Speaker 1
holy fuck
Speaker 2
so she was she had one of those tumors and make you look pregnant I would assume like it's a big ass
Speaker 1
tumor what a switch to you if
Speaker 2
it yeah a nephew had assisted one of his nephews
Speaker 1
I'm surely not but he was like I guess all right now we got to cut it we got to cut the tumor and drain it a little before we yank it out of the hole in your hands I didn't know you could drain tumors but we're all in either yeah no that is crazy you know it comes out I'm just
Speaker 2
putting
Speaker 1
okay a crowd stop it looks famished butterscotch Luke just picked up his pudding team people don't know that's where butterscotch pudding comes I think we shouldn't do this part anymore okay
Speaker 2
a crowd gathered outside the house because no one understood what this doctor man was doing
Speaker 1
yeah
Speaker 2
they were angry and excited and waiting to see what would come from him quote butchering a woman
Speaker 1
I mean I I got I always like to put myself in the head of the people and I think I would be in the crowd be like you can't do that yeah you can't just
Speaker 2
cut a woman
Speaker 1
you know because it was just on a table yeah I would want to see what wait yeah
Speaker 2
but I think you can legally do that probably if you're married
Speaker 1
at that time to love and to cut through sickness and in health on a table
Speaker 2
so if she died there was pretty much no one to protect Afro and they would just take revenge on him so I would
Speaker 1
definitely be being like the nephew said it was cool with you
Speaker 2
guys he was saving her life but also putting his his in the balance yeah in the balance but she lived and after 25 days after the surgery she made she made the bed and she rode home
Speaker 1
okay she made the bed nice that's nice
Speaker 2
she lived another 32 years 32 more years that's how good unless she was evil then it's not good we don't know well I
Speaker 1
mean we're not we don't know about her so you assume
Speaker 2
she's not evil well why else would the tumor be in her some people called Ephraim the father of abdominal surgery nice
Speaker 1
people
Speaker 2
came to him from all over the country to cure their ills he also used corpses for dissection as he had studied in Edinburgh and that was a big thing
Speaker 1
there that's fine that's where haggis comes from that is where haggis that's yeah oh there's the haggis dollar yeah in
Speaker 2
Missouri it was legal to dissect hanged criminals but in the 1830s the demand for corpses was way more than there were hanged criminals so body snatching became a
Speaker 1
thing okay
Speaker 2
so
Speaker 1
Joseph back to Joseph yep the boy his
Speaker 2
nephew Joseph studied with his uncle to become a surgeon okay for sure Joseph would have stolen bodies so he defers uncle and himself okay yeah that you just had to have done that back there
Speaker 1
sure

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