I have to admit I do everything last minute before podcast. There's a lot of anxiety because like whatever,. If I have to pack, if I have to set up stuff, you were luckily a few minutes early. But the stress is immense. And on top of that, you look at like a situation with Rick Rubin is I had to set up microphones in front of him and just that stress, the anxiety. He gave me so much like, wow, he made me feel like an artist. That the microphone distance is a decision you're supposed to make.

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