Do You Ever Leave It?

Clay, welcome back to the pod casts. A lot has a chan in your world. Utacked a big pivot for you last year. Heading into this year, you actually became one of the 38 per centte pastors who were thinking about leaving full time pastoring. Do you still think of yourself as a pastor? I did. How many years i started there when you were fouri wish it was 18 years that i had been there.