Sabine Hossenfelder Λ Bernardo Kastrup on Superdeterminism and Metaphysics [Theolocution]
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This chapter presents a deep discussion on superdeterminism and metaphysical idealism, highlighting their impact on our perception of reality. Featuring insights from physics and philosophy, the speakers explore the relationship between consciousness and fundamental existential questions.
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Sabine Hossenfelder and Bernardo Kastrup discuss the prospects of superdeterminism as a solution to quantum foundations and its metaphysical implications. The conversation examines statistical independence, experimental falsifiability, and the role of consciousness in measurement while weighing philosophical objections.
- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:04:16 - Overview of Superdeterminism
- 00:08:31 - Bernardo's agreements / disagreements
- 00:13:15 - It's more promising to violate statistical independence (SI)
- 00:15:59 - What are the hidden variables in Superdeterminism?
- 00:18:20 - What is statistical independence? Is it a mere assumption?
- 00:22:41 - People claim Superdeterminism isn't falsifiable, but is it?
- 00:31:17 - Back and forth criticism and justification of proposed experiments
- 00:38:35 - Does experiment change the outcome of what's measured?
- 00:41:37 - Contrarian views -- should they be put forward tentatively?
- 00:44:57 - Decoherence and the observer
- 00:49:22 - The observer (and consciousness) is irrelevant in quantum mechanics
- 00:52:37 - Why oppose violating statistical independence (SI)?
- 00:54:57 - Metaphysics? Or simply trying to solve the measurement problem?
- 00:55:57 - We don't have a good reason to depart with SI
- 00:59:10 - Holding Sabine to higher standards than John Bell?
- 01:01:31 - [gastronic] What is the definition of measurement / What does it mean to "look at"?
- 01:02:22 - [Salvatore Pais] Unification of forces by means of the "Super Force"
- 01:05:18 - [rad capsule] "Without thought, there is no science."
- 01:07:22 - Falsifying idealism
- 01:11:53 - Joscha Bach?
- 01:13:20 - Notes about the upcoming Salvatore Pais interview
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RESOURCES:
- Sabine Hossefelder's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SabineHossenfelder
- Testing Superdeterminism: https://arxiv.org/abs/1401.0286
- Testing Superdeterminism: https://arxiv.org/abs/1105.4326
- Other Superdeterminism articles: https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.02676
- Other Superdeterminism articles: https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.01327
- Decoherence article: https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.06282
- Bernardo Kastrup's website: https://www.bernardokastrup.com/
- No Go Theorem on Wigner: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-020-0990-x
- Making Sense of the Mental Universe by Kastrup: http://ispcjournal.org/journals/2017-19/Kastrup_19.pdf
- https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.01826
- https://www.nature.com/articles/nature05677
- https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/12/12/123007/meta
- https://arxiv.org/abs/1902.05080
- https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0085-3
- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FA%3A1012682413597
- https://books.google.nl/books/about/Mindful_Universe.html?id=pArDC3K3O2UC
- http://ispcjournal.org/journals/2017-19/Kastrup_19.pdf
- https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.49.1804
- https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9806043
- https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9810080
- https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10119
- https://www.nature.com/articles/nphys3343
- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1026096313729
- https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9609002
- Better Left Unsaid documentary: http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com
- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:04:16 - Overview of Superdeterminism
- 00:08:31 - Bernardo's agreements / disagreements
- 00:13:15 - It's more promising to violate statistical independence (SI)
- 00:15:59 - What are the hidden variables in Superdeterminism?
- 00:18:20 - What is statistical independence? Is it a mere assumption?
- 00:22:41 - People claim Superdeterminism isn't falsifiable, but is it?
- 00:31:17 - Back and forth criticism and justification of proposed experiments
- 00:38:35 - Does experiment change the outcome of what's measured?
- 00:41:37 - Contrarian views -- should they be put forward tentatively?
- 00:44:57 - Decoherence and the observer
- 00:49:22 - The observer (and consciousness) is irrelevant in quantum mechanics
- 00:52:37 - Why oppose violating statistical independence (SI)?
- 00:54:57 - Metaphysics? Or simply trying to solve the measurement problem?
- 00:55:57 - We don't have a good reason to depart with SI
- 00:59:10 - Holding Sabine to higher standards than John Bell?
- 01:01:31 - [gastronic] What is the definition of measurement / What does it mean to "look at"?
- 01:02:22 - [Salvatore Pais] Unification of forces by means of the "Super Force"
- 01:05:18 - [rad capsule] "Without thought, there is no science."
- 01:07:22 - Falsifying idealism
- 01:11:53 - Joscha Bach?
- 01:13:20 - Notes about the upcoming Salvatore Pais interview
SPONSORS:
- Brilliant: 20% off at https://brilliant.org/TOE
- Algo podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ
- Algo website: https://www.algo.com/
- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal
- Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE
- PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt
- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs
- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802
- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e
- Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything
- Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch
RESOURCES:
- Sabine Hossefelder's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SabineHossenfelder
- Testing Superdeterminism: https://arxiv.org/abs/1401.0286
- Testing Superdeterminism: https://arxiv.org/abs/1105.4326
- Other Superdeterminism articles: https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.02676
- Other Superdeterminism articles: https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.01327
- Decoherence article: https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.06282
- Bernardo Kastrup's website: https://www.bernardokastrup.com/
- No Go Theorem on Wigner: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-020-0990-x
- Making Sense of the Mental Universe by Kastrup: http://ispcjournal.org/journals/2017-19/Kastrup_19.pdf
- https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.01826
- https://www.nature.com/articles/nature05677
- https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/12/12/123007/meta
- https://arxiv.org/abs/1902.05080
- https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0085-3
- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FA%3A1012682413597
- https://books.google.nl/books/about/Mindful_Universe.html?id=pArDC3K3O2UC
- http://ispcjournal.org/journals/2017-19/Kastrup_19.pdf
- https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.49.1804
- https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9806043
- https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9810080
- https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10119
- https://www.nature.com/articles/nphys3343
- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1026096313729
- https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9609002
- Better Left Unsaid documentary: http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com
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