"You have to realize you're already there and just sink into it," he says. "It's so much surrender, you don't even get to go." The saying goes back to the bracing against life, which is like being a rock in a river that flows forward - but if you are rigid, you're not moving at all. 'If you could turn that into a movie, it would be like the biggest move in the world'
Pete and Val catch up and get INTO it!