The improvement might not just be simply the actual transformation, but as you said, thinking about the problem. CTOs care a lot about developer productivity, but how much of their time is actually spent being able to think about that or do anything about it? That's what we do when capitalism, what we're all about. We've been DevOps teams and guilds for a long time. Now we see a rebranding of them. Some companies also have dedicated teams just for the measurement piece.

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