Ross Coldhart's Interview With Grash

"UFOs are a perfect cover. Oh, that's just a, you know, it's just a UFO," Grash says. "I think even if people have their doubts about Dave Grosch right now, because it's early days and it's hard to know exactly what's happening." The former director of the US Navy's entire science and technology division was dying of cancer when he reached out to Ross Coldhart for help with his story.