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5 Steps to Squirm Free Sales

The Cathy Heller Podcast with Cathy Heller

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The Promise of the Programme

The first 16 times you explain or share what you do, it's going to be clunky a little bit. Confused byers don't buy. A gift'll get better. People just don't really care about the process. But time and time again, you have to help people feel seen and understood. And that means knowing how they're seeing a problem,. How they're thinking about what they want. It remind me of, like, volvo, right? We when i was a kid ted avolvo, and then my first car was a 19 87 volvo, which was like, you know, passed down andPassing things back and forth is great. This is

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