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Caroline Goyder | The career-ending risk that paid off.

The Emma Guns Show

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How to Spin Out

"There's a voice in my head, which is incredibly critical and shrill and unkind," she says. "If I'm a bit tired, if I have any properly, if I've had too much coffee, if a few things have gone wrong in the day... then yeah, it just I just start to spin." She adds: "It's just a kind of weird Caroline Psycho drama in which I'm terrible".

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