Bruce amer and denis mc kenna engaged in a spirited conversation for a tribute to denis's brother, terence. The conversation was recorded on april fourth, 20 20, at an online event held during the early phases of the covid 19 epidemic. Bruce has spent the past 20 years taking powerful questions and ideas forward, from novelty to th singularity to pandemics. Many of which emerged from his late nineties conversations with terence before he passed. Te ask bruce to keep telling the story, but tell your own story. Listen to this talk then to see how it all turned out - including the cosmic wiggle.

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