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How to Reward a Higher Investigation Role in Madman Quail
You can still do it with your d20 and you let them use their feats and everything else but you could do the success at a cost idea from powered by the apocalypse. or dc17 is success plus and if you do like plus five increments that usually works. The main thing is when you talk about subsystems your players are the ones who brought the idea to you and they were on board totally fine with subsystems at that point mostly i'm against it so madman quail actually kind of builds on this he says how might you reward a higher investigation role.
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