What's the Biggest Lesson You've Learned From Ukraine?

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Atul Agrawal: "We're all on a learning curve. There are areas of development for each of us and for us as an organization" He says the biggest lesson he's learned from his work in Ukraine is that there's a space between disaster relief and system building. Atul has been coached by Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, Novak Jokovic among others.

Renowned surgeon Atul Gawande spends his days in the operating theater and his nights writing articles for The New Yorker and bestselling books like Being Mortal. Today on the show, he tells our curator Adam Grant how he balances his passions for different fields, why he works with a coach, and how he's helping the White House end our current pandemic — and prevent the next one.

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