The F 35 is a great example of this. Like there's no shortage of content out on the internet about how poorly that program has been managed over the last 29 years now. And, and I think our approach was, look, we're going to self fund our own research and development. We're not doing that by illicit requirements. They can just buy the thing that we built or they can not. So it involves you sort of sitting there. John trace: Who are the players in the space right now? And what does that look like today?

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