As that thing lifted off, I think everybody had chill bumps. If they were going to Miami or Zellville, waiting for that launch, it was the most exciting and exhilarating moment of my life. So we went from a low point in 67. And here two and a half years later, we're on our way to the moon. Are you kidding me? But there's still people out there, the non-believers. That was everything was NASA simulation and so forth like that. They did make it. There were a couple of serious problems that nobody ever heard about that were going on as they were coming down to the moon."

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