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12. Derren Brown — Magic, Happiness, and Skepticism

The Michael Shermer Show

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What Matters Is Love and Relationships

"We all kind of feel like we should lie and no one knows what happens when you die," she says. "So, I guess what us atheists have to do is just keep reminding ourselves what matters is love and relationships." The dying person becomes like a cameo in their own story at the point where they should be having absolute ownership of their story because there isn't a clear sense of meaning.

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