Developers often think that everywhere is like where they happen to live, he says. People who have a radically different ees ina, radicaly differenc o set of interest are just being kind of rgiven this kit which they 're trying to then sort of adapt to ther needs. So if we're gong to do public cepte development in tako, or anywhere, it's got to be a very, very detailed conversation between citizens and experts - the people who speak their language.