Mary's sister, younger sister had MS. We moved back to Ottawa because there's a doctor in Ottawa that was using stem cells and chemo. And she doesn't... He never says cured because it just goes dormant apparently, but she doesn't have any MS symptoms anymore. They looked at what they were prescribing and they went to the doctor news like, well, there's nothing wrong with this, but it's not going to work. That's why Ivermectin, because it doesn't have the side effects. Why it didn't make sense just to try it? It's a nerd or whatever.