The natural state of any organism is health, and we try to optimize for it. So the way I think about the name of my podcast is the natural state,. And so being obsessed now with human environment? What is the proper human expression of health and richness? Not just physical health, but all these things combined has led me to want to go to experience, okay, what is the best thing we can go to see? The Hamza tribe in Tanzania are like one of the last tribes that have been that long.

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