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Shaparak Khorsandi with Isy Suttie live from Latitude Festival

The Penguin Podcast

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The Highs and the Lows of Fame

I'm so glad that in the 90s I didn't have a way of looking at my body immediately and going oh no why did I wear that. mediocre gigs can be more annoying than bad gigs yes they're worse. The lows have to be low for the highs to you know be have that much of a payoff. It's almost like a religious experience it could never be any of the words that perfect group of people are new in that moment, he says. "That old chestnut bathroom scales there's absolutely no need for them"

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