Hachla: I want to get your perspective on the information theory of aging because we haven't we've mentioned it, but we haven't spoken directly to it. Hachla: David's specific interpretation or development of the information Theory of aging is epigenetic. So he's saying that there's some type of epigenetic drift and that if you were to put in things like activating cetuins... And then the other type of intervention that often here put forward is the use of yaminaka. Right. Well, I would love to have both of you on if we can make it work. I think the longevity community would love to see that discussion. right.

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