I was doing a job for money that i didn't really enjoy for the passion of it. I had just made the decision probably a week or two before, that i wasn't going to trade money for what i felt like was part of my soul. How did you find your way into pod casting then? Cause i feel like you talk about working out, and obviously physical health is extremely important,. But now you've kind of like one 80 and now it feels like you really push mental helth a lot. So how did you find the this space to kind of talk about mental health, mental awareness and things like that, especially in pod casting?

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