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David Kaye on How We Address the Global Spyware Problem

The Lawfare Podcast

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Do You Think There's a Way Forward?

Sceptical of the idea that we can at all rely on companies producing surveillance tools self regulating themselves. Companies in all areas have to operate in the shadow of government regulation because, you know, they don't want to be subject to an enforcement action by the state. So there's just going to be a need for ther're to be both company policies that can be required by the state - subject to regular audit and so forth. And there's going to have to be state regulation on the export side.

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