The Pessimist and the Optimist Are Not There

We’re bringing you a conversation I had recently with DJ Hillier of the MiFit podcast. We dive into transformational coaching, how I got into the mental side of competition, balancing passion and obsession, and more.

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👉🏼 Ben Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CompTrain.

👉🏼 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter, podcaster, and creator of Functional Branding.

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