I want to talk about some concrete things that we've seen in various countries. The states are pushing this particular approach to the mining industry, to onshoring mining. Are they allined with government efforts to onshore production and secure supply chaines or does that have risks for them? It is a very good question. Cat i think it gets to the heart at some of the stuff i brought up earlier,. This industrial policy paradime in which governments are trying to encourage particular economic activities for particular strategic goals.

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