Outro

'Abbott Elementary’ star Chris Perfetti joins the show. Over oxtail pasta and bee sting pizza, Chris tells me about the evolution of his character Jacob, why they didn’t need to overexplain his sexual orientation, and w g his love of theater with a busy sitcom schedule. Plus, I recall a run-in with Chris at LAX, that now seems like it was a big turning point in his life. This episode was recorded at Roberta's in Studio City, CA.

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