Tiephart: I can make the case for the type of things that you're saying should only be said to elites who can change them. At the same time, the elites are a product of our population and our value and our engagement with the issues of the world. So how can your message and your knowledge about the risks that we all face, including the granddaddy of all, which is some peertepeer. Nuclear a conflict. How can that be helped by more general public awareness? And ill, i'll just put it bluntly, there's a reason you don't do a lot of podcast and and we're willing to do this because you 're very worried about

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