Speaker 2
Well, i don't think it's that it failed necessarily. I think there are a lot of other factors it play, and we'll kind of get into that a little bit a but before we do that, youv you were talking in recent writings about effective polarization. Can you explain how that's different from just general polarization, and how that is affecting us?
Speaker 1
Ok, so it's, it starts with an a, affective and affect is has to do with your emotions. And i've borrowed this from professional political scientists who came up with this idea and it's basically, when you're not pularized around issues, but you're polarized around your political identity. Ah, so you a, it's not that you like that you're in love with the policy is on your side, but you hate the other side, and that's yourour motivation for voting. And, ah, i think maybe the best example of that i can think off the top of my head is early in covid the left view was, people who were worried about covid were a being races. They a, some of the democratic politicians made a point of going out among crowds of chinese americans to show their opposition to racism and their lack of concern about covet. And so very early, lik, in the first month, you could tell that it was a, the division was that the conservatives and republicans were worried bout covid and mad at china, and the democrats were, yo, kind of sayng o, oh, youre you'rea, you're crazy for worrying about it. And of course, you know, a few months later, those poles reversed. So what that says is that there isn't so much of a consistent thinking about the substance of the issue, it just once a tribe coalesces around a point of view, then the other point of view just becomes totally unacceptable. Ah, that that would be an example where the just knowing that the other side is saying something makes you want to say the opposite.