The After Thing With the Swarm

i had a podcast at that time that i only did in person, right? It was like me and my buddi's. We'd go to his apartment, and we would record in studio. I gave him a copy of the cabalion because he was getting into the spiritual. So i wanted him to have that book. He didn't want the book,. then he was like, no, give it to me later. The first time i ever talked to sam oser on his podrion it was for his skull and bones tinfoil story. And we talk about bread and butter: "I don't live near new York City but i went to college there"

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