Is Renewable Energy Going to Get So Much Per So Fast That We Will Just Let That Go?

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The falling price of ornobles is one really important factor in making a somewhat cooler planet plausible than seemed likely five or ten years ago. But we also have had a real rise in political activism around climae change, which has changed the calculus of our political leaders. And there are good reasons that it will continue to fall. So i think that we are approaching a point globally where almost everyone would choose to pour whatever money they're pouring into energy extraction into noble resources rather than developing new intera structure.

David Wallace-Wells is one of the foremost journalists covering climate change. A writer at The New York Times and a columnist at The New York Times Magazine, Wallace-Wells is the author of the best-selling book The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming. His New York Magazine article of the same name was the most read in the magazine’s history.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and David Wallace-Wells discuss why the worst scenarios for the future of climate outcomes have become less likely over the course of the last years; how much damage climate change is nevertheless likely to wreak; and what political, economic, and technological solutions might help humanity deal with this urgent challenge.

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