i think there is something about weird societies that led to the rise of western europe, definitely. And i think that's the original, or not the original, ecause you always go further back in time. That was an important impetus was, why did europe diverge from the rest of the world? and he talks about the breakdown of clans which i think is important. A, and the breakdown of the extended family unit,. The church disallowing polygamy, ah, the church disallowing cousin marriage. All these things helped to to maintain these lineage structures. And that really is kind of the definition of individualistic culture, verses collectivist culture....

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