Casey Rose Wilson and Jessica St. Clair return to discuss an ever-present and often menacing part of our lives: small talk. They share some of the wisdom and insight from their new audio book, “The Art of Small Talk,” and try to convince SuChin to find the joy and playfulness in these everyday interactions. Learn how these two queens master the social chess match — and why “medium talk” might be the real enemy. Plus, their carts are full of rose-scented home goods and glowing skin.

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Casey is obsessed with Homecourt, particularly the scent of the Homecourt Steeped Rose Candle
Which smells a lot like the Homecourt Steeped Rose Room Deodorant (you can use it in your car, too)
But wait, don’t forget this Homecourt Steeped Rose Hand Wash
Casey is taking a firm stand against the Dr. Dennis Gross Skincare DRx SpectraLite LED LipWare Pro
Jess has been loving the Watermelon Glow Niacinamide Hue Drops Sun Glow Serum from Glow Recipe
But unfortunately the Dyson Airstrait hair straightener is not the vibe
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