Webinars have a sort of a bit of a in my mind webinar equals slightly scammy. It's just a cheap event that you can put on, like, I just think of it as a zoom meeting. So yeah, look, any tool can be used for scammy stuff. A boardroom, there are probably boardrooms full of scammers right now,. But it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with a boardroom. And it's just an easy way to test the market. Because if you can get 30 people on that webinar, but half of them drop off during the webinar, then it's like, okay, something's wrong.

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