"I think everybody is starting to see it, but you know, when I see the comments and it's like, well, what's the big deal? They can just see, they can see the same thing with the satellites," he says. "They might not be able to extract the information the same way or maybe it was a dry run for an EMP." He adds: "You don't understand that that people don't understand ... what an EMP actually is"

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