In the global north, that means we're going to have to use less or significantly less energy inputs. What are models in India, for example, that are working now on a lower energy per capita basis? Do you have any thoughts on this? Lower external energy, lower fossil energy. You know, the work we do in agriculture, no fossil fuels at all. The souls are fertile. I would love to organize it, organize it, you know, bring a group to see how you can simplify and have a good life.

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