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David Papineau: How Does Consciousness Connect Us To Reality?

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i like the analogy with illusion, because it's a bit like something about the visual system that strongly inclines you to think. And i'm now finding myself very strongly inclined to say that this illusionism issue is a red heading intstr ad i don't want to talk about that. I want to talks about the substantial issues that you're raising and how should we think about them. Let's not incorporate the idea that somehow the worldly properties are part of our experience. That's a terrible idea, but it's very common. If we wontit, we want to be clear about what is consciousness. And some people whoe try to get neurcroft's conscious i fear, are thinking

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