The Bad Popes Argument Against Catholicism

Bishop Baron: To me, that's just in line with our doctrine of original sin. So no, to me, that doesn't tell a thing against Catholicism. Let's take it to the extreme and say every pope was really just morally awful. But is there any kind of threshold that would kind of put it? No, go back to Peter. How do you assess St. Peter morally? And that ad-assess him as a pretty mixed bag,. You know, he's good and bad. All right, let's move. We'll go to some Q&A from the audience.