The first minister that I worked for in government, actually, Roger Morgan, described the Welsh's pathological modest. But also, there are these amazing things that whales does and is remand with all, like the third and the entire world for recycling. Like was the only country in the world who's in something which I learned called bums on roads. So recycling nappies into kind of Rome to a surface. There's loads of like cool stuff that goes on in Wales but I suppose, yeah, we're pathologically modest.

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