Who Is Judge Immergut and Why Her Ruling Matters

Over the past week, ICE and border patrol agents have clashed with Chicago residents, and federal guard troops arriving in the city might inflame tensions further.

Julie Bosman, Chicago bureau chief for The Times, and Mattathias Schwartz describe the situation on the ground and explain how the city fits into a broader political fight.

Guest:

• Julie Bosman, the Chicago bureau chief for The New York Times.
• Mattathias Schwartz, who has reported on the tension between President Trump and the courts.

Background reading: 

• Drones, helicopters, hundreds of arrests: President Trump’s immigration crackdown in Chicago so far.
• A judge blocked a National Guard deployment in Oregon as Mr. Trump expands his targets.

Photo: Octavio Jones/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

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