Fold into this black and white like you. You know, some one's in the right, some one's in the wrong, and often in the process, victim myselself. But fundamentally, what it kind of boils down to is it gives you a lens to view the worldby. Rather than saying, i am a victim of the situation, or this person has wronged me and mit hurt me in this way, you can see it as o, this persons vated this wound, which is the lesson that i need to learn so i can unearth this and move through it. Its like the evolution of my becoming and vicesarsen. And we always offer each other mirrors. And like that's why relationships are so complex, because it suddenly comes into this point where you like, it shows you all the things that you can't see on

ou so well, said, yes, exactly. That's what it is. I mean, every experience you're having, i believe, in life, is really a reflection of what's inside of you, or we can even say your chart, right? So if i'm struggling with something in terms of not feeling like i'm enough, and i really believe that i'm inadequate, i'm not enough, that energy is what i will bring into my life vi other people in circumstances. Bcause

oversea, like when one goes through the satu anturn often. And something that i experience was this massive theme in authority, and how that would always come from the outside, and i would sort of hand over the keys to my kingdom to any one that came along tell me how to do things. And i realized retrospectively, that that was an opportunity for me to actually realize that it was internal. But i have a lot of people the, you know, that came to the live shore of the podcars and somewher that, and they kind of have this fear round or what's going to happen? Is it? It's something i don't, i don't mean to kind of make it seem like this moment in time where everything's going to fall apart and you have no controlover. But it's like these lessons are going to cs mainly about changing your perception of your experience

completely. First itis towt about the saturn return too, that that can be the most incredible time yorlife. I mean, that's why i started that first company. So whatever you put your energy into at that time is just the most important thing, cause it will likely yield someine of resut that's right. It will yield results. And saturn isn't easy. So that's something i look at in a chart, if somebody has what's called a saturn complex, because that can be ay logical feeling of being inadequate, not enough, needing to prove yourself that something's wrong with you. And that's a theme of your life, right? And then there are saturn cycles, like the one you're talking obou saturn return, that impact people for like nine months at a time. It's like a gestation period. It's time to grow something a so halfe saturn are kind of always dealing with that sense of authority, make your sayangor, you know, i not enough, or, i have to, have to deal with thit. And then some people don't have saturn, experience it for these nine months windows, and it's brutal. But if you have saturns

his nine months window, yo,

it's like we think of it as a gestation period, yet's interest, i had to give birth to something. And there are also saturn cycles you can have outside of the saturn returned. There's all kinds of cycles. And that's what the

pattern stopand work in seven year cycles, it

does. But there's all different places in the chart that saturn can impactd so you could turn coul be umpacting your moon. Could be umpacting your venus. Coud be umpacting your mars. A saturn return is saying that saturn has now gone through the basically 30 years, which would take 29 years. It's back to its exact place at the time of your birth. That's a very specific one. Then seven years later, it's squaring where it was at the time of your birth. But when we look at s saturn, cald be, you could be going, sir, saturn, to your son.