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381: Fighting The Odds and Trauma, With Kelsi Sheren.
Jocko Podcast
The Importance of Respect
"I love the ocean, but they're like serious from a distance. No, I'm going in all the time," he says. "If that looks rough, like don't play." He recalls being knocked off his surfboard by an undertow while on vacation with his son and learning to ride it out. 'It finally did spit me out'
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