Is There a Difference Between Design and Engineering?

This week, we talk about the pros and cons of working on a remote design team, and what we think the future of design organizations will look like in a post-pandemic world. In The Sidebar, we talk about how to weigh compensation against your career trajectory.

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Main Topic:

This week, we talk about the pros and cons of working on a remote design team, and what we think the future of design organizations will look like in a post-pandemic world.

Klexo asks on GitHub:

Hiya, this question resurfaced following the Patreon shout-out in the cursor episode. All their design roles (and there were loads) were limited to NY and SF whereas engineering for the same company has multiple remote openings. Have seen this across other companies like Stripe, Pinterest etc. Why is that? Shouldn't these companies be able to offer remote roles especially with the onset of remote payroll startups solving the logistics of it? Have you found working with remote design teams subpar?

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