"I met Jason February of 2020 that why that's right dude was drinking a Budweiserright he's the only other guy one of the only other guys drinking beer I'm like well fuck I'll go meet this guy and we end up talking for like an hour and a half thanks to Jason Calipa my guy who doesn't drink beer but and it was right literally seven to ten days before you realize that the world was gonna go fucking stupid. "Jason has always been optimistic about the American people he's extremely extremely well educated historian on America he he's a very well educated human on the history of just politics and war inside America," says singer-songwriter Sal Vazquez
In today's episode, Andy and the crew are joined by the founder and CEO of GORUCK, Jason McCarthy. They discuss how Jason's training as a Green Beret helped him build the GoRuck brand, the best way to deal with the uncertainties in business and life, and the importance of having an optimistic outlook toward America's future.