The obstacle came out in 2000 May of 2014 and it didn't hit any less that's so long ago. I remember when obstacle hit number one for the first time which was like almost exactly on the anniversary of five or six years The problem is you can have two reactions to that kind of anti-climacticness Which is one it can it can realize oh this I was after this thing that no external thing is ever going to get me. If that happens then you you've been given a wonderful gift and you have a certain newfound freedom, he says.
Jordan Harbinger is a podcaster, radio personality, entrepreneur and longtime friend of Ryan’s. So when he invited Ryan to come to The West in LA to join him for a live conversation for his podcast, The Jordan Harbinger Show, Ryan jumped on a plane right away. This is that conversation, in which they discuss how they find their flow states, the ins and outs of teaching Stoicism, cultivating a healthy relationship with work, and more. You can follow Jordan’s work on Twitter @JordanHarbinger and Instagram @jordanharbinger, and on his website www.jordanharbinger.com.
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