I think Trump was a, I mean, he was the all-media candidate, but he is a television. He's a figure of American television and the only reason people like us don't intuitively get that is we don't watch enough TV. The notion that it's sort of an American story that's about specific things that's happened here is just clearly not true. This technology we're talking about is global. Social media is global. And again, it's hard to play this causal game. But they ran together. They flowed. These rivers kind of flowed together clearly.

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