I think that the way we approach birth and quote, unquote modern culture is that it's like an illness. And so whenever I hear about a woman who's taken, you know, an alternative route, which to me is not alternative, alternative is going to the hospital, I'm very curious as to how that works. It was being pregnant with my first child when I really began to explore some of these things that I had never been taught about or had no experience growing up being around birth in the way that I can see my children have been now. Yeah. Welcome to the jungle episode of someone's to go back.

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