How to Learn Data Modeling Techniques

Mark healing has a really good question here. He asked what resources are recommended to learn proper data modeling techniques. Well, certainly I'll record, I'll recommend my book. And of course anything by Steve Holberman, Donna Burbank, Graham Simpson has some great books. David Hayes, John Giles, yes, my good friend colleague from Australia. Yeah,. there's, there's a lot of good books on data modeling where I feel that my book adds some particular value is that it talks not just about how to do data modeling, but ways in which to use data models as storytelling tools.