Callum returns to Hearts of Oak to discuss his recent travels in Zimbabwe, specifically exploring what he terms "The Ruins of Rhodesia." He reflects on his previous adventures in Afghanistan and Ukraine, characterizing Zimbabwe as a unique yet complicated experience, marked by a sense of danger stemming from uncertainty regarding political expression. Unlike clearly defined lines in countries like Afghanistan and Russia, where one might be aware of the topics to avoid, Zimbabwe creates an atmosphere of anxiety regarding what is permissible to say, a situation exacerbated by the fear of arbitrary punishment for dissent. This nuance in the social landscape leads to a broader discussion on censorship and the anxieties that stem from a lack of clear boundaries in free expression, drawing parallels to rising concerns in the UK.
Callum emphasizes the need for context, particularly historical context, to understand modern Zimbabwe. He introduces a historical segment at the start of the interview explaining the complex narrative of Zimbabwe, particularly the Rhodesian era and its consequences. Many viewers lack knowledge about Zimbabwe’s past, so he simplifies this history for clarity while ensuring accuracy. Callum examines the migration of the Matabele, tracing their history back to the 1800s, and offers insights into the intricate ethnic dynamics at play, which challenge oversimplified narratives about race and colonization. He illustrates that racial delineations are insufficient and argues for recognizing the underlying complexities of Zimbabwe's colonial history.
As he recounts his personal experiences traveling through Zimbabwe, Callum reflects on the realities of life for both black and white people since the end of colonial rule. He notes that while some narratives portray extreme animosity between racial groups, his interactions suggest a more complicated relationship characterized by mutual respect juxtaposed with lingering power dynamics from the colonial past. He recounts a surprising level of historical nostalgia where some younger Zimbabweans express a longing for governance styles reminiscent of Ian Smith's regime, revealing a stark contrast between the past and the current political situation.
Transportation and logistics in Zimbabwe provide another layer to his narrative. Callum talks about the surprisingly easy travel to Victoria Falls and the challenges faced navigating through the country, detailing the state of the roads and public transport. In Harare, he contrasts the monumental urban development against rural struggles, noting that access to basic amenities can vary greatly within the same country. He draws attention to the stark divide between wealth and poverty in urban settings, where modernity exists alongside profound struggles, likening some areas to Victorian-era slums.
On the topic of the economy, Callum finds that entrepreneurship thrives out of necessity rather than opportunity, with an estimated 95% of the populace operating outside formal employment structures. This observation leads to a deeper examination of economic resilience amidst scarcity, observing that people often engage in multiple trades to survive. As he discusses the state of agriculture, mining, and informal markets, he highlights the disparity between the potential within the country and the suffering caused by systemic mismanagement and corruption.
Throughout the conversation, Callum underscores the contrasting ideas of colonial legacy, current governance, and potential futures for Zimbabwe, demonstrating a deep empathy for the Zimbabwean people, whose lives reflect resilience amid adversity. His thoughts culminate in a hopeful outlook for the nation, despite its challenges, as he expresses a desire to return to witness further developments. The interview underscores the importance of understanding historical context in grasping contemporary issues, culminating in a nuanced portrayal of Zimbabwe beyond mere headlines.
In closing, Callum outlines logistical details for potential travellers to Zimbabwe, encouraging exploration while emphasizing mindful awareness of the nuanced social and political landscape. To support his journeys and future work, he invites listeners to connect with him through his subscription platform, calling for continued engagement in discussing and exploring the complexities of cultures and histories around the globe. 

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Interview recorded  9.8.24

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