Rafe: "I think she's ultimately the glue to all of it, because i think she keeps everyone in check" He says he grew up with tabloid types and there were even more people than that. But no one has come close to this massive empire these people have built," Rafe adds.
Tim talks about the last American love story, the Kardashian empire, the greatest piece of satire in the last decade, and Greg Norman siding with the Saudi golf tour.
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